Scots indie! Part 2

The Vaselines

Just a quick post, but felt like posting some classic eighties scottish indie.

From Perhaps, which may be the most underrated scottish record of the eighties.

Associates -‘Breakfast 12″.’ mp3

The Fire Engines were a big influence on many scots bands, perhaps most notably Franz Ferdinand. I will post the split single that both bands did here at some point…

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OK so Psychocandy is the definitive scottish record of the eighties, but let’s not forget that there were some fantastic records afterwards too.

Jesus and Mary Chain -‘April Skies.’ mp3

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t had to be part of this post. Just sheer class. Post-punk meets indie. Oh yes, oh yay…

Josef K -‘Sorry For Laughing.’ mp3

Their second single on the legendary Postcard label, and my favourite song of Edwyn Collins’ ultra-cool scottish heroes.

Orange Juice -‘Blue Boy.’ mp3

Later covered by Teenage Fanclub, the Pastels, still going in 2007, are fantastic. I me

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t Stephen Pastel earlier this year, the most down to earth and shy musician I have ever met.

The Pastels -‘Nothing To Be Done.’ mp3

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the Velvet Underground.
The Vaselines -‘Son Of A Gun.’ mp3

If you like these tracks, seek ’em out, goddamit!

Album Review: To Rococo Rot

Album Review: To Rococ

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But on putting it into the CD player, it’s quickly clear that it actually is great electronica. Whereas previously To Rococo Rot have specialised in more analogue sounding electronica, they have here worked only on acomputer and keyboards. The bass sounds that emerge are still fantastically pleasing and have managed to balance that difficult relationship between experimental and listenability.

At only twenty monutes long, it doesn’t hang about, but it’s a rewarding listen. Much of the best electronica comes out of Germany (think Kraftwerk, and the enduring influence of the so-called ‘Krautrock’ bands) and this is certainly a very Eurpoean record. For my money, ‘lvx 4’ i

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From ABC123:

To Rococo Rot -‘Freitag.’ mp3

To Rococo Rot -‘lvx 4.’ mp3

Two older tracks from To Rococo Rot:

To Rococo Rot -‘Rock On, Lovers.’ mp3

To Rococo Rot -‘Cars (Variant).’ mp3

To Rococo Rot’s Myspace

Kate Nash and The Black Kids!

Very frustrated that I am still waiting for my bandwith to be refreshed, despite the fact that today was supposed to be the day it was.

Anyway…

two things I have to share with you:

First of all, 17 Seconds’ favourite scottish unsigned singer, Katie Sutherland has signed a publishing deal with Warner Chappell, and emailed me to tell me that today! Yes!!

Secondly, the hotly debated Black Kids -still unsigned as far as I can tell -have already been covered by the fab Kate Nash go here to hear her cover of ‘I’m Not Going To Teach Your Boyfriend How To Dance With You.’

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Album Review: Wounded Knee

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Wounded Knee’s reputation kind of preceeded him. I was thrilled at the thought of reviewing this record, though my editor handed it over a little nervously.

Well, chill, because this record manages to be forward thinking and traditionally scottish at the same time, way out and listenable at the same time and that’s not something that can always be said.

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Interview: Commander Keen

A few months back, I described Commader Keen‘s My Tascam Dreams as one of the finest things I had heard all year. Listening to it (quite often, I have to say!) I stand by my comment ‘ Imagine Sigur Ros, John Martyn and Squarepusher recording an album together. Imagine that

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the result was as beautiful as Ladies And Gentlemen We Are Floating In Space.’ Stuart Torrance, the mainman behind Commander Keen, came over to Edinburgh to talk about the release to 17 Seconds.

In the flesh, he’s a very warm friendly guy, who’s clearly very passionate about what he’s doing. He’s also extremely polite and apologetic, especially when he considers that he’s gone off topic (something I am accused of quite often myself!)

When we meet, Stuart’s a month off releasing My Tascam Dreams. To me it’s wonderful, fresh and new, but to Stuart, who tends to record at home, it seems quite a bit older. ‘Now the stuff that we’re doing is so different and I’m working with that every spare minute I’ve got, and you’re coming back to old stuff…it’s a really weird thing’ he chuckles.

I ask him how long he’s been doing stuff as Commander Keen. ‘Well, there was a year of … kind of solo stuff which was bloody awful, but I can feel sort of bad about that, or look back and see it as experimental to find the kind of stuff I wanted to do,’ he reasons. ‘ There are ideas that have survive

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was something I had been looking to clear up, I say. Is Commander Keen a band or a solo artist -or does he want to get away from these labels? ‘Well, that EP [My Tascam Dreams] was just myself working with samples. I really liked samples at that point. The only guest on that was a trumpet player.’ They are scheduled to have another release out in January or February 2008, done as the three of them. Is this going to be an album or single? ‘I think at the moment we’re just keeping our releases small,’ he says modestly. ‘If you keep bundles fairly small, then people won’t get so fed up with it. He adds, sounding genuinely amazed: ‘There are people who seem to really like it that I wouldn’t have thought would like it…I don’t want

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a lot of their stuff.’ He mentions band like Aereogramme and Arab Strap, part of what 17 Seconds has described
as the scottish indie aesthetic, and there’s something of the peculairly scottish sadness there too.

Like many of us, his tastes have changed. He says how his tastes as a teenager tended towards guitar music, though he listens to a lot more Ambient stuff now. Sigur Ros’ Ágætis Byrjun was also an eye-opening, or rather, ear-opening album for him.

Although he was born in Edinburgh and went to school here, he’s now based in Glasgow where he studies. The two cities have long since shared a (mostly) friendly rivalry. We discuss how in Glasgow it’s more ‘in your face’ whereas in Edinburgh it’s something that requires digging out. Perhaps it’s something to do with Glasgow’s more settled population rather than Edinburgh which tends to be quite transient. Stuart considers this

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. ‘What I notice is that people involved in the edinburgh scene, all of them seem really nice, whereas in Glasgow there’s a lot of egos flying about.’ It’s balanced out in odd ways too. Edinburgh has a lot of covers bands, whereas in Glasgow ‘there’s a lot of bands with funny eyeliner and lip rings’ he says with a shudder. He is too tactful to name them -and he’s far too nice to press- but he suggests that there are venues in Glasgow that are just opening up for profit.

I ask him what he’s been listening to of late. On the train over for the interview, he was listening to a band called Frog Pocket, though he says he’s got a great love of Four Tet. This leads us on to a discussion about being open to more types of music, and how much diversity there is in the scottish music scene, it needs to be consolidated and brought together in terms of accessibility.

He’s very modest about how he expects to do. After he and I have ranted together about the likes of Simon Cowell for five minutes, he says that when you make the sort of music he does, you have to accept that it may not be successful, at least not in the way of a bona fide pop star. It would be a shame, this is music that deserves to be heard by as many people as possible. The band are also gigging in and around Scotland, so take a telling and go investigate!

Commander Keen’s myspace page is here

He also sent me through some mp3 clips of the My Tascam Dreams which can be downloaded here:

Commander Keen -‘Panic Attack.’ mp3

Commander Keen -‘My Tascam Dreams.’ mp3

Commander Keen -‘I Thought If You Heard This (Alternate Version).’ mp3

Commander Keen -‘You Know the Words.’ mp3

Commander Keen -‘She Dances (Original Instrumental).’ mp3

If you like what you hear, buy My Tascam Dreams, which is also available at iTunes.

Introducing…The Black Kids

Every so often, there is a band that comes along, that sends the blogosphere into a frenzy of discussion, and over the last few days that band has -rightly, in my humble opinion been these guys The Black Kids.

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Interview: Ringo Death Starr

I have raved about Ringo Deathstarr on this site many times, so it seemed about time to publish an interview with them. They comprise: Elliott Frazier on guitar and voice, dustin gaudet on drums, alex gehring – bass/voice and renan mcfarland on guitar. Here Elliott tells 17 Seconds about how it all came together, how come they’ve not yet played outside of Texas and whether we’ll ever get to see them in Scotland…

How did you guys come together?
Ringo deathstarr began 2.5 years ago, founded by me, elliott. after many shows and many line-up changes, we finally ended up with the current formation, which feels like what this band should have been all along. some of the original members moved away, others were too busy with other bands, others had other problems, but i never gave up, since i wrote all the songs. Stephen Hablinski was the longest running ember, he was the other guitar player, and he wrote all the melodic parts on the e.p. he was just too busy to commit the time we needed…so, after the e.p. was recorded, we parted ways. i knew dustin from our home town of beaumont texas, and i sort of knew alex from this store she worked at, FACTORY PEOPLE…and renan is one of her good friends…..

You list your influences as being super-reverb. Are you honestly going to say that there’s no Jesus and Mary Chain and My Bloody Valentine influence there?!
well, thats up to the listener! it is true, though…but also, there are other bands like starflyer 59 and morellas forest that were big influences, before i heard JAMC or MBV…in beaumont, nobody that i knew liked any of that kind of music…when i was 18, my older friend julie had JAMC’s “darklands” and had all the smiths and morrissey stuff, and thats also when i got into the Dandy Warhols….but beaumont was a town without good record shops, and wal-mart and best buy were the only places to get music. it was like a black hole.

Who do you see as your contemporaries?
manhattan love suicides, ume, shields, anything after….we all seem to be doing something similar

You’re currently about to play with the Dandy Warhols. How did that come about?

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They heard about us from The Black Angels, and asked us to play…

Have you played outside of Texas yet?!
nope, we dont really have a way to get around, we are in the middle of texas, so far from any state border…we dont have a van, so we have to take 2 cars. we are too poor to rent a van just to go on a gig….if clubs actually paid real money then we could do it, but paying $40 for an 8 hour round trip aint gonan cut it, dude…but we are looking at our options to get to NYC and back…

Your EP ‘Ringo Deathstarr’ has come out on a British label, Spoilt Victorian Child. How did you get involved with SVC?
Simon, who runs that label, contacted me, and said he wanted to release it..he gave me a pretty good offer, so here we are…he has worked hard, and it is paying off i think..

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ccident most of the time. usually i have an idea for a song, but it takes a long time to come together. luckily, with the current line-up, everyone else has good ideas. with all the line-up changes, i was the only songwriter, and stephen would add his guitar at the last minute before we recorded it. now, alex comes up with vocal parts, bass parts, renan plays some spaced out bliss, and dustin has drum ideas. we are working on songs for our next e.p. now…but we are taking our time.

Describe your live show for the benefit of anyone who’s never seen you.
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and gaze at our shoes. we like to have a good time. we like to be LOUD, and crazy sometimes. dustin sells p.a. and lighting equipment, so he got this foot switch for strobe lights and stuff, which alex controls.

What plans have got you got for the rest of 2007 and 2008? Can we expect more releases soon?
WORLD DOMINATION. we will have another release as soon as we get it together…i have already designed the artwork for it.

List your favourite 10 albums.

elliott–starflyer 59 – silver
ride – smile
zz top – eliminator
dustin –broken social scene – self titled
chromeo-fancy footwork
flaming lips – soft bulletin
brian jonestown massacre – their satanic majesty’s
second request
Alex – pixies – doolitle
-blonde redhead – melody of certain damaged lemons
-kings of convenience – right on an empty street

plus a bonus one —broadcast – ha ha sound

What is your favourite piece of art?
elliott – goustave courbet’s “L’Origine du monde”
dustin-everything by basquiat
marin – red sun
alex – the art of Banksy

Do any of you still have day jobs?
yes, i teach music lessons to kids, dustin works at a music store in the p.a. system/lighting department, alex works at a local boutique, and renan is a full time student.

Do you think the word ‘indie’ still means anything in 2007?
yeah, but not as a description of a SOUND. i think the DIY ethic and all that is easier now more than ever, with all the technology…i think independent artists will continue to gain all the power over A&R people.

What would be your dream gig for Ringo Deathstarr to play?
one where people are there to see us.

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when some magical entinty supplies us with 4 plane tickets. i have been to glasgow before, when i played drums in IV Thieves…played at barflys, twas great fun. we will try really hard to get over there….

We’ll hold them to it. Anyone want to help organise a whip round?

Ringo Death Starr’s debut EP is now available through their MySpace site here.

Two samples for you: from the EP

Ringo Death Starr -‘Swirly.’ mp3

And an early version of the track ‘Some Kind Of Sad’ which caused 17 Seconds to get extremely excited a few months ago:

Ringo Death Starr -‘Some Kind Of Sad (early version).’ mp3

Some Covers For Thursday


(it’s really not far off this in Scotland now)

OK, don’t know how much I’m going to be able to post over the next few days, so here are seven covers for today. No linking theme, but hope you like them:

Muse -‘House Of the Rising Sun (The Animals cover).’

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Big Star -‘Femme Fetale (Velvet Underground cover).’ mp3

The Pretenders -‘I Go To Sleep (The Kinks cover).’ mp3

Madness -‘It Must be Love (Labi Siffre cover).’ mp3

The Wedding Present -‘Felicity (Orange Juice cover).’ mp3

Slowdive -‘Some Velvet Morning (Lee Hazlewood and Nancy Sinatra cover).’ mp3

Big Black -‘The Model (Kraftwerk cover).’ mp3

Gig review: Wedding Present/St. Jude’s Infirmary

Gig review: Wedding Present/St. Jude’s Infirmary

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In 1986, NME released their now-legendary compilation cassette C86, which compiled twenty-two then up and coming bands on indie labels. Though there were some who did ‘cross-over’ and sign to major labels (Soup Dragons, Fuzzbox), this was symbolic for defining the ‘indie’ sound as well as attitude, and makes an interesting companion to their 1981 cassette c81 (which had featu

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n C86 was released, I have seen all four: Primal Scream, Half Man Half Biscuit, the Pastels…and The Wedding Present.

The following year, the Wedding Present, by now very much NME and Peel favourites (they are just behind The Smiths and The Fall in terms of most votes ever in the annual Festive Fifty) released their debut, George Best. Fourteen gorgeously spiky songs about love and frustration, it has become widely regarded as a classic. And it’s this we have come to celebrate.

If anyone had told me that Saint Jude’s Infirmary were supporting tonight, I would have tried to have got there earlier. When Mrs. 17 Seconds and I arrive the band are onstage, instantly recognisable, very bloody loud and playing to a room that isn’t terribly responsive. If they play ‘the Church Of John Coltrane’ or ‘Goodbye Jack Vetriano’ then they do so before I arrive. The band are currently recording their second album which is due out next year. It might seem an odd choice to be supporting The WEedding Present, but songs like ‘American Sonar’ actually have quite a weddoes influence. They finsih with ‘All My Rowdy Friends Have Gone Away’ by which time the venue has filled up nicely and the crowd are much more appreciative.

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ame (if you haven’t read his blog, you really should). The Wedding Present have a hugs following out there still, and if it’s not the original Gedge-Solowka-Gregory-Charman lineup, it really doesn’t seem to matter. Mr. Gedge is adored by his public (providing they don’t call him Gedgie, it seems, quite understandably!) They don’t go straight into George Best era stuff, but treat us to half a dozen songs beforehand, incl

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uding ‘Brassneck’ ”Convertible’ and ‘Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah’ and a new song called ‘Don’t Take Me Home Until I’m Very Drunk.’ Gedge winds the audience up by saying ‘Good Evening Glasgow’ (believe me, there’s a lot of rivalry between us and them). When the opening chords to ‘Everyone Thinks He Looks Daft’ start, the cheer joy of everyone around you rmeinds you just how important and great this band is. When they get to ‘My Favourite Dress’ I try hard not to dance like an idiot up there on the balcony, but I give up, or give in rather, and Mrs. 17 Seconds smiles indulgently. There is just so bounce and fun in these songs. Down there on the dancefloor the audience -many of whom may very well have seen them on tour twenty years ago, are showing that age need be no barrier to moshing (though your humble correspondant gave up seven years ago after a Cypress Hill set a

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t a festival).
In true Wedding Present style, they don’t play any encores, but they do play ‘Kennedy’ which gets perhaps the best reception of the night, especially the ‘Too Much Apple Pie’ bit(which always sounded slightly friendlier than the You! Fat!Bastards! cha

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for many years yet. And if they would like to tour Bizarro and Seamonsters to mark those anniversaries over the coming years, I’ll get my diary out now…

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If you haven’t bought George Best, you really should. This should whet your appetite…

Wedding Present -‘Everyone Thinks He Looks Daft.’ mp3

Wedding Present -‘My Favourite Dress.’ mp3

Wedding Present -‘You Can’t Moan Can You?’ mp3

And two Saint Jude’s Infirmary tracks, (even if they didn’t play them last night):

Saint Jude’s Infirmary -‘Goodbye Jack Vetriano.’ mp3

Saint Jude’s Infirmary -‘The Church Of John Coltrane.’ mp3

When is a cover not a cover?


OK, maybe I’ve just got too much time on my hands, but this question has been occuring to me for a while…And where does that leave pr

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Iggy Pop -‘China Girl.’ mp3

David Bowie -‘China Girl.’ mp3

And what about ‘Shipbuilding?’ Elvis Costello co-write this poignant ballad about the Falklands’ War, in 1982, Robert Wyatt recorded it first and had ahit with it, then Costello recorded his version for his own Punch The Clock LP in 1983. I like Wyatt’s voice, but Chet Baker’s trumpet is heartbreaking.

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he did in Orange Juice and then recording it for his own solo You Can Make It If You Boogie in 2003. Or was it?

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Please leave any thoughts below…